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	<title>Comments on: Where is Your Voice, Christian America?</title>
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	<description>home of the Word for Wednesday and akaGaGa, a Christian and a libertarian - in that order - who blogs about both.</description>
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		<title>By: akaGaGa</title>
		<link>http://akagaga.com/2008/12/where-is-your-voice-christian-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad, Paul.  I think the scariest part is that most people don&#039;t even realize what&#039;s happening.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad, Paul.  I think the scariest part is that most people don&#8217;t even realize what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulsHealthblog.com</title>
		<link>http://akagaga.com/2008/12/where-is-your-voice-christian-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulsHealthblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife showed me this and it is scary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Guilty until proven innocent. How sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife showed me this and it is scary.</p>
<p>Guilty until proven innocent. How sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Hercules Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://akagaga.com/2008/12/where-is-your-voice-christian-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Hercules Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jean. I look forward to your sermon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jean. I look forward to your sermon.</p>
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		<title>By: akaGaGa</title>
		<link>http://akagaga.com/2008/12/where-is-your-voice-christian-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, don&#039;t be melancholy, Herky.  God is still on His throne, even if most Americans don&#039;t recognize that fact.  I can understand your feelings, though.  It&#039;s a very sad thing to see the great American dream get flushed away.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If enough Christians repent, then God may relent on His judgment of our country.  In fact, that&#039;s the topic of a sermon I&#039;m giving at church this Sunday.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I fear hard times are headed our way.  Stay close to the Lord, Herky.  He&#039;s the only one who will be able to see you through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, don&#8217;t be melancholy, Herky.  God is still on His throne, even if most Americans don&#8217;t recognize that fact.  I can understand your feelings, though.  It&#8217;s a very sad thing to see the great American dream get flushed away.  </p>
<p>If enough Christians repent, then God may relent on His judgment of our country.  In fact, that&#8217;s the topic of a sermon I&#8217;m giving at church this Sunday.  </p>
<p>But I fear hard times are headed our way.  Stay close to the Lord, Herky.  He&#8217;s the only one who will be able to see you through.</p>
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		<title>By: akaGaGa</title>
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		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right, Ogre, about the focus of most established churches. They&#039;re more concerned with building their congregation (and the collection plate) than building the body of Christ, or even representing Jesus on earth.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A pastor I met last spring said that churches serve the community, but chaplaincies serve themselves.  I don&#039;t think we have many churches left.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, Ogre, about the focus of most established churches. They&#8217;re more concerned with building their congregation (and the collection plate) than building the body of Christ, or even representing Jesus on earth.  </p>
<p>A pastor I met last spring said that churches serve the community, but chaplaincies serve themselves.  I don&#8217;t think we have many churches left.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Hercules Mulligan</title>
		<link>http://akagaga.com/2008/12/where-is-your-voice-christian-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Hercules Mulligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Good question, and good post.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Part of the answer may lie in the fact that many American Christians today think that their duty consists in &quot;voting their values&quot; at the polls, and that&#039;s about it. Get rid of abortion, sodomy, put back prayer in schools and secure our rights of religious expression, win some court cases, elect some professing Christians, and tada! we&#039;re a Christian nation again.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve been thinking a little bit about this issue myself, and my reflections have made me a tad melancholy. Bush and his administration has been supported by mainstream evangelicals, for the simple reason that he claims to be born again, and is &quot;pro-life.&quot; (Which lives?) They don&#039;t have a problem with the Iraq war, so on, because they have been so blinded by the propaganda. Stick a Christian label on it, and we will swallow almost anything.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It doesn&#039;t matter that Bush is a forthright globalist. It doesn&#039;t matter that he has declared himself to be above the Constitution he swore to uphold, by publicly calling it a &quot;blankity-blank piece of paper.&quot; It doesn&#039;t matter that he has continued the tradition of illegally monitoring American citizens, and breaching our other rights through the &quot;Patriot&quot; Act, but refuses to get involved to save the life of Terri Shiavo (suddenly, THAT issue would be left up to state and local authorities). It doesn&#039;t even matter that he said Christians and Muslims worship the same god -- publicly, on at least two different occasions!! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We wanted to outlaw abortion, and we wanted certain kinds of judges on the bench. We could have chosen to be responsible, but instead we asked for a king, who told us what we wanted to hear, and gave us &quot;fix the problem quick with a law and with a ruling&quot;. And now we have one. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I regret from the bottom of my heart to say, that Bush owes the remnant of support that he has, or ever did have, to the evangelical American voters who still go with the flow. Apparently, bowing your head in a moment of silence, and signing abortion bans is more important that the most basic respect for the laws of the land.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I hope that more and more Christians will realize our fatal error, and quickly repent and wake up before we are gulped down whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Good question, and good post.</p>
<p>Part of the answer may lie in the fact that many American Christians today think that their duty consists in &#8220;voting their values&#8221; at the polls, and that&#8217;s about it. Get rid of abortion, sodomy, put back prayer in schools and secure our rights of religious expression, win some court cases, elect some professing Christians, and tada! we&#8217;re a Christian nation again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a little bit about this issue myself, and my reflections have made me a tad melancholy. Bush and his administration has been supported by mainstream evangelicals, for the simple reason that he claims to be born again, and is &#8220;pro-life.&#8221; (Which lives?) They don&#8217;t have a problem with the Iraq war, so on, because they have been so blinded by the propaganda. Stick a Christian label on it, and we will swallow almost anything.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter that Bush is a forthright globalist. It doesn&#8217;t matter that he has declared himself to be above the Constitution he swore to uphold, by publicly calling it a &#8220;blankity-blank piece of paper.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t matter that he has continued the tradition of illegally monitoring American citizens, and breaching our other rights through the &#8220;Patriot&#8221; Act, but refuses to get involved to save the life of Terri Shiavo (suddenly, THAT issue would be left up to state and local authorities). It doesn&#8217;t even matter that he said Christians and Muslims worship the same god &#8212; publicly, on at least two different occasions!! </p>
<p>We wanted to outlaw abortion, and we wanted certain kinds of judges on the bench. We could have chosen to be responsible, but instead we asked for a king, who told us what we wanted to hear, and gave us &#8220;fix the problem quick with a law and with a ruling&#8221;. And now we have one. </p>
<p>I regret from the bottom of my heart to say, that Bush owes the remnant of support that he has, or ever did have, to the evangelical American voters who still go with the flow. Apparently, bowing your head in a moment of silence, and signing abortion bans is more important that the most basic respect for the laws of the land.</p>
<p>I hope that more and more Christians will realize our fatal error, and quickly repent and wake up before we are gulped down whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  I read an article earlier this year (somewhere on the internets) about the Southern Baptist Church -- it was asking where the church had gone.  The church used to be strong in politics and standing up to proclaim when policies were wrong.  Now all churches appear to be focused inward -- or at least only on themselves.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, being called to be in the world and not of it does merit some mention here.  It appears the poem you mention is happening now in America.  I wish I could say that I was surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  I read an article earlier this year (somewhere on the internets) about the Southern Baptist Church &#8212; it was asking where the church had gone.  The church used to be strong in politics and standing up to proclaim when policies were wrong.  Now all churches appear to be focused inward &#8212; or at least only on themselves.</p>
<p>Of course, being called to be in the world and not of it does merit some mention here.  It appears the poem you mention is happening now in America.  I wish I could say that I was surprised.</p>
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